How I Met Your Monster

Vampires in Robert Rodriguez and Quentin Tarantino's FROM DUSK TILL DAWN (w/ Guilford Adams)

Episode Summary

Kicking off our CRUEL SUMMER triple feature, we’re hijacking an RV on the Texas/Mexico border with actor/director/bozo Guilford Adams to meet the seductive and sinister Santanico Pandemonium and her Titty Twister patrons in FROM DUSK TILL DAWN, starring George Clooney, Juliette Lewis, Harvey Keitel, Quentin Tarantino, Salma Hayek, Ernest Liu, Tom Savini, Danny Trejo, Fred Williamson, and Cheech Marin.

Episode Notes

Kicking off our CRUEL SUMMER triple feature, we’re hijacking an RV on the Texas/Mexico border with actor/director/bozo Guilford Adams to meet the seductive and sinister Santanico Pandemonium and her Titty Twister patrons in FROM DUSK TILL DAWN, starring George Clooney, Juliette Lewis, Harvey Keitel, Quentin Tarantino, Salma Hayek, Ernest Liu, Tom Savini, Danny Trejo, Fred Williamson, and Cheech Marin.

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Episode Transcription

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Today we kick off our cruel Summer triple feature with Robert Rodriguez's sweat soaked strip club showdown. The laps are being danced on, the Knicks are being sucked on. And Quentin Tarantino is letting his foot fetish flag fly as we hijack an RV on the Texas-Mexico border to meet the seductive and sinister sent Tentacle pandemonium and her Titty Twister patrons in From Dusk Till Dawn.

 

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The box. You open it. We met him. 15 years ago. I was told there's nothing left for you explorers in the region. As I. Humans to some Asians to others. Here we go.

 

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To.

 

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Oh! Surprise city! Come on, let me get you.

 

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Welcome to how I Met Your Monster, the show where we discuss the introductions to your favorite movie monsters. Today we are kicking off a brand new, summer themed triple feature. It's our cruel summer triple feature. And we're talking in here. Yeah, I know, right. And, Dax in a flannel. In a fucking flannel. I mean, well, better what better?

 

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Clothing choice to kick off a cool summer triple feature, but, make sure to follow how I Met Your Monster on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok. Where? All over the place. And, if you're not following us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube now, make sure to subscribe there as well. So we are talking Robert Rodriguez and Quentin Tarantino's From Dusk Till Dawn from 1996, and we are joined today by Gilford Adams.

 

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You are a actor writer, director, is that correct? That is correct. Yeah, man. Since I'm so fucking good at this, I'm good at introducing guys. And you're from Austin, okay? And you have a new documentary coming out. I do, it's called American Clown. I've worked as a professional clown for the 20, almost almost 30 years.

 

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Okay. There's been a, explosion of the word clown, and he gets kind of pushing the sort of, that the, I guess the everyday clown, to to to the side. And so I really wanted to document that. And so I did that through, con, I've got Steve-O and John C Reilly and David Arquette and a lot of heavy hitters in it to kind of express their love for clowning.

 

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That's amazing. Yeah, that's. Yeah. That's awesome. So when you. Oh, go ahead. Oh, no. I was gonna say when's it available? I want to watch it. Well so yeah, it premieres here Dances With films which is going to be June 23rd here in Los Angeles, actually in Hollywood, Hollywood, Highland, where they do the Academy Awards right there at this man's Chinese theaters.

 

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And then, in the hope is we get some distribution soon as. Yeah. So that's the first that's going to be the world premiere on, the 23rd of June. That's awesome. Awesome. And what got you into, the world of clowns, like, when you've been doing it for, like, 30 years? Like, what sparked that when you were younger?

 

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Yeah, I did it a little bit as a kid. I church had a program set up, and I grew up in the South and something called Caring Clowns, where they use ministry to kind of reach out to older folks and younger folks and that gotcha stuff. And, I learned balloon animals. I made my first clown costume and stuff.

 

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And then when I got into high school, I did a lot of people do, and I kind of got into, you know, girls and sports and stuff. But that revisited it kind of in college because I came into acting as an athlete. I was just very physical. And so when I moved out to LA, I started my own clown company and kind of really got into kind of that and the physicality.

 

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And you know, I felt like I was standing on the shoulders of all these film giants like Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keaton and all these guys that lived in the exact same city, you know, a hundred. Yeah. So it just got like, I just, I got kind of intoxicated by it, and I just. I pursued it ever since.

 

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Yeah. That's awesome. That's really cool. So you were talking about in the documentary, there's that correlation between this sort of like the clown world that you're in versus sort of like how they're depicted in horror movies. Yeah. How has that kind of affected your work? Oh, it affects everything, you know? I mean, it affects all of us. And I think the biggest thing that happened in the, I guess the mid to like 20 1516, there was just a crazy clown scare and everything was like, oh, these crazy clowns are coming to LA.

 

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And the the Barnum and Bailey circus closed. And then I was working for McDonald's as one of, their assistants, Ronald McDonald, in the field. They closed. So like, it was just like, what's going on, man? It was right there with the presidential election of 2016. Really listen, like I don't I don't get it. And it was this weird blending of kind of entertainment.

 

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But entertainment is now news, you know, like. Yeah. So it just felt like I just couldn't see straight. And I thought, like, I need to talk to other people, other clowns about what's going on. Like, what is this? This is kind of new territory. And so and I spent the documentary just really over the past eight years having that conversation, trying to figure out which way is up, you know.

 

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Yeah. Yeah. What a great concept. Great idea. Yeah. Thanks. So, you've been you said you've been making it for eight years. What was it the did you just, like, feel like it was like what what what what was going through your head to be like, okay, it's time to wrap this up and package it and put it out.

 

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Well, I thought my wife might kill me if I kept it. But I guess there was also, there was, you know, I kind of. So I do a lot of parties out of. You're still. I still do kids parties. I'll do like that 30 year old, you know, somewhere in Silver Lake that went to birthday party and, and we got to a point with it was like, I feel like there's a groundswell of goodwill in people that are interested in clowns, like, you know, that brings you home as soon all the way back around.

 

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Oh, the new generation is like, dude, I love clowns, but I just felt like the right time. We also had amassed probably two dozen interviews, and for every the producers always want to get big names. I totally get it. But for every big name we start pulling in, we got to get rid of these. When these rank and file clowns that I think really deserve to have their story told.

 

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Yeah, but just felt like, you know, it's like having a full closet but wanting more clothes, like, we just we just gotta wrap this closet up, I think. And then we go to another one in the future. But I think we're here. So it was a combination of those things. Really awesome. Awesome. Yeah. Robert Rodriguez so he's a big Austin filmmaker.

 

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So and I'm sure before I moved out to L.A., I worked as a stand in once on his film The Faculty now. And I was, I was I think I was, like, working as a stand in for Robert Patrick, I believe. I later met in L.A. working on a different show, but I just thought it was such a weird world, you know, he walked around with this guitar.

 

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Robert Rodriguez, from on set and then just plays and, you know, just it just kind of flows in a, in a very natural way is where I met Elijah Wood for the first time, and it was just a really cool set. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. We're big fans of the faculty on this show. Yeah, for sure.

 

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But yeah, yeah, Robert Rodriguez, he attracts some, like, really awesome, like a very eclectic group of actors. It's always a big cast. It's never. It's like a show stopper. It's never just like low key. He kind of comes in, right? Literally. You're talking about, like, the guitar made me think of Desperado. I was gonna say, he comes in, don't say anything.

 

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Yeah. It's his his visual style is very, very unique. Like even watching it, you know, again, because of our prep, I watched it again last night and I was like, oh, yeah, I mean, just just the cuts are very, Yeah. No mean, totally Hollywood. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because he he directed this. He was the editor. He was a camera operator.

 

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And, and, you know, also with the camera operation, he also did Steadicam on this. And, I just, I like, you know, to your point, I absolutely love the editing in this movie with the mix of the weird cuts with sound effects and like, you know, like swishes and stuff like that is like they pull the camera back, you hear like a whoosh, and it's just, it's so cool.

 

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Yeah. Or the drop or. Yeah, it's very, it's a little Keystone Cops. Like, there's just like the, you know, the, the, the camera seems like another character sometimes. Yeah. Oh, totally. Totally. And this was 1996. This was, George Clooney's, like, breakout film role. Really? Yeah. He had been doing er, he had, but it wasn't his first movie.

 

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He had been doing. You know, he's been in a lot of movies and small things, but this was like coming off of er, this was like his big, breakout role in film. And then, you know, after this was like one fine day and then it just snowballed from there. But yeah. But yeah, he had been on.

 

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Yeah, yeah. There was very much leading man vibes in it. I mean, he plays a bad guy, but in at the beginning there's something really nice and I think it we all kind of fall in to him and like he's the main protagonist when he, when they finally get in Mexico like okay guys, you know here we go.

 

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We're good. Now you know. Yeah. That system we're just going to push on and we're like okay, weren't weren't familiar Clooney territory, you know. Yeah. Totally. Yeah, yeah. There's a strange charm to him. Yeah. Which is, which is makes me uncomfortable as the audience because they are such like the gecko brothers are. So they they're all people especially.

 

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Obviously Richie is there to kind of contrast him even more because he's so detestable. Yeah, but even Seth is just. It's like that is. I mean, I'm not an actor, but I can only imagine what the challenge must be to take on, like, what the script is giving you this, this, his backstory, and then to give it, like you said, that leading man charm, kind of insane.

 

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It's it's it's really it's. We were talking about this, texting just kind of casually about the movie, and I was like, yeah, this is definitely up there. It's one of my favorite Clooney performances. Yeah, it's it's solid. It's really solid. Yeah. And that's just such and such a crazy movie. Yeah, yeah. And when you can take a character like that, that's so despicable and but like, you, you know, like you said, like you just like you're kind of rooting for him and you're like, oh, like here's like, get in the car.

 

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We're comfortable in this. Yeah. It's like that's a really good, you know, performance and good written character and. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of writing, this was not only written by Quentin Tarantino but also Robert Kurtzman, who was, you know, as part of K and B effects. And they did all the makeup for this. But, then you had Greg Nicotero.

 

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So it says I saw an unnamed movie that he's in the movie, but I couldn't catch Greg Nicotero. Yeah, yeah. So he is in it when, when they're in the bar, they haven't turned into vampires yet, and a guy sits down and tries to, I think he tries to take sex machines, beer or something like that. And things come out of it.

 

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That's when you see, like, his going come out, and then he's like, okay. He like backs off that is, Greg. Nick did not yet have the hair. There is something that did it usually that's like the big he's got hairs there. The hairs there. It's it's. Oh yeah. Oh okay. All right. But I guess I'm just gonna have to go back and watch this.

 

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Oh, do you guys watch From Dusk Till Dawn again? It was. It sets at the very beginning to this that, It's that long shot with light. And I forgot that, a John was in it. John Hawkes is at the beginning. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And, he's done a bunch of stuff, and, you know, it's in Eastbound and Down, and I love him.

 

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He's also in. But, and, anyway, so he sets up that just really very much Quentin Tarantino, sort of like just that scene kind of goes on for a minute, you know, and there's like, you know, pays off when you find out. Then he's back there holding somebody and, you know, but it's not like it's like this was so long for a static shot for a while, you know that.

 

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Yeah. I normally see opening a movie, you know. Yeah. That's funny. That is so Tarantino though, because he really has sort of established that he's, you know, like like you said, like those long drawn out it very like Inglorious Basterds like that the opening in that where you're like, what's happening? Like I know there's tension, but like where is it going and how is it going to.

 

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And he it's literally like that, but like through the lens literally of like, yeah, a different filmmaker. Well, that's just great dialog, you know what I mean? That's so good where it's like it's like you said, it's just kind of static. It's just back and forth between John Hawkes and Michael Parks, but it's like their dialog is so good that you're just invested.

 

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And even though I don't fully agree with a lot of the things that they said, and, you know, some of the words that were used is a little, it would not, not, not too good, but like but it's captivating. And that was the ranger, Michael Parks. Yeah. You need to play Timothy. All fonts, dad. All I could see when I was looking at it was like, oh, like a slightly older Timothy Olyphant.

 

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I mean, that's such a good comparison. I yeah, we just, we just did a, Michael Park. We've done a few Michael Parks movies as the monster. We did, we did read them. We're, Kevin Smith movies. Yeah, yeah. Red State and Tusk. He was the villain in both of those, but. Oh, wow. He is. He's something he's talking about a ballsy actor who's willing to go places, but, yeah, sadly, we lost Michael Parks, a few years ago.

 

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He's, But, but he was he was incredible. And he is all again, you know, we're talking about, actors who are great actors and also great musicians. Michael Parks is is one of them, too. He has a few albums back in the I don't know if it was the 70s, 80s, but yeah. Oh yeah. Michael Parks, did he just do everything?

 

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He's like, every time you talk about him, you always keep gassing him up. And I'd like find something else about him. Like, he really is pretty great like, but and, you know, and speaking of music as well, like, I used to have this soundtrack and I listen to it all the time. There's some good music in it, and especially that one that opens, you know, as they blow up Benny's liquor store and they're driving away and that that rock song comes on in the title card and meant so cool.

 

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Okay, well, let's jump into this. We're going to start talking about our monster reveals. Let's cross the border. We're going to Mexico, and we are headed to the Titty Twister for some Cheech Marin seasons. We got horse pussy, we got chicken pussy got Cheech Marin, who has, three different characters in this series, which I love. Every time I've seen this movie.

 

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I watch this a lot as a kid, which as an adult, I'm like, who is supervising me as a child? Because this is so it's like, beyond inappropriate. Yeah. Yeah. Like beyond, like the whole strip club and monster like that. The first act of this movie is so bleak when we're, like, focused on, Richie's, kind of, psychotic mannerisms.

 

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Actually, we should probably point out this is one of our more unique episodes in that, really, most of the monster intros don't show up until really, like, at the midpoint. Like that's the moment when things change. So I feel like a lot of this is going to be set up. Will obviously be introducing our central characters, but, yeah, yeah, this is such a fun movie to show someone who has no idea what it is.

 

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Although like I did show, my wife this movie like two years ago, and she was so pissed when it turned into vampires. Because she was like, she was like, you know, I'm, you know, I'm sitting there, I'm like, oh, my God, she's going to figure it out. She's going to figure it out. She's going to figure it out.

 

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And but she didn't. But when it turned into vampire, she was like, what the hell? She was like, I was having such a good time with these characters and like, trying to figure out where it was going to go and what was going to happen. And then it fucking turns into vampires. And I was like, I was so disappointed.

 

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In her defense, there is a great movie happening in that first act that could go to a more traditional, like non supernatural route. But we talked about this a lot on the show about how we have that kind of nostalgic, bias. Yeah. You know, we both watched a lot of these movies as kids. So it's like oh it's the greatest, you know like until it's.

 

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Yeah, yeah. And hold up. Yeah. You I, I love it when I was the first time I saw it, I was younger, I loved the back half. And this time I was a little bit more intrigued with the first half, you know? And it's okay. What's happened? I knew the turn and half. I was like, okay, now this is a different movie.

 

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Now we're into this. It's almost like I felt like you're going to, you know, and then the explosions and the big and, you know, it was it was it was a different ride this time. Yeah, totally. You know, it's funny, I never thought of it like this, but, you know, Tarantino and Rodriguez had they in 2007 did the grindhouse movies.

 

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You did Planet Terror and Death Proof. Yeah, this kind of has that DNA. Like Tarantino is doing his movie. Rodriguez is doing his. I wonder if that was in the conversation at some point. Like, what if we did a kind of weird amalgam of like, what the grindhouse movie was, but as a singular movie? I'm kind of just guessing, but like this.

 

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That's what it feels like. The DNA feels like that. Yeah. Well, I mean, this was 96, Grindhouse was 2007. Yeah. Right. I like this movie. Are you saying, like, just like backwards? Like they just they like they were saying, like, what if we did something similar and then by 2007, it's like we're both in a place in our career where we can just be like, fuck it.

 

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We're just going to do our literal dress movie. With this, all that, that set up. Yeah. There is something interesting about all that. I know we're getting to the meat of it, but there's something interesting about all the practicals that they use. You know, you've got bodies. I really enjoyed the way some, you know, I mean, did make sense really.

 

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Some would burst into flames, some would like, blow up and then the room. Yeah. Yeah. It's just it's all over the place. Like at that point it's like, you know, it's like this cartoon. But I enjoyed, like, watching the bodies melt. And then the different was like like that would all be CGI now or something, you know, that would not be practical as it was back then.

 

00:18:06:09 - 00:18:27:23

 

So I was like, oh, this has a place in cinematic history because they don't make movies like this anymore, like it was the turn of that era a little bit. Yeah. And like you said, it's this, that second half is so big, like so explosive that it's actually kind of crazy that they could get away with what they got away with, with those practical effects at that capacity.

 

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Which there was some cool there was some cool effects that I found out in watching some behind the scenes stuff that we didn't see in the movie, like a vampire, like on top of one of the truckers, like popping a pimple and like, all this shit squirts out. And then there's like and, like, covers the guy, and we said, correct me if I'm wrong.

 

00:18:48:08 - 00:19:08:18

 

I don't think this shot is in the movie. But, you know, when they have, like, their Wild Bunch standoff where there's like the four girl vampires and the four dudes and you see that one vampire with, like, the stomach that's open? Yeah. I don't think the shot was made it into the final cut, but there's a shot where she eats the head off a trucker like his.

 

00:19:08:18 - 00:19:33:00

 

His head goes into her stomach, and she rips it off. And like, Clooney is just like watching her. I don't think it's in the final member that, was in it, but that was cool. And and, you know, you talk about the melting bodies when Danny Trejo's vampire melts. This was the first time watching this movie that I noticed his eyes roll into the corner pockets of the, the pool table.

 

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So that's fun. I've seen this movie so many good times. I never noticed that they roll off to the sides. It's so funny. Yeah, like you said, cartoon logic it. Yeah, it's what enhances the movie. Yeah, yeah. That's hilarious. But. Okay, speaking of all those vampires, let's go to the titty twister. You.

 

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You.

 

00:20:13:03 - 00:20:41:06

 

All right. For from dusk till dawn, we have 12 official monster reveals. And, you know, Danny, you had mentioned this isn't our typical kind of movie that we do, because the first half is more like a action drama thriller. And then the second half is a horror movie. And our main characters are monsters themselves. Yeah. But for the sake of this movie and for our monster reveals, we only counted vampires as, as monsters.

 

00:20:41:06 - 00:21:05:04

 

So, we'll talk about Seth and Richie, but mostly it's about the vampires. Okay, so this is my pick for our cruel summer triple feature. And so I'm going to go ahead and read the synopsis from IMDb, and let's see how this one, stacks up. Two criminals and their hostages unknowingly seek temporary refuge in a truckstop populated by vampires with chaotic results.

 

00:21:05:06 - 00:21:30:18

 

That was okay. Yeah, right. Of the IMDb synopsis we have read, it's very concise. It's. It is what it is. Spoils the movie. Totally surprising. It. Yeah, yeah. So, like a half Bravo. Like they they they were there was brevity, but maybe somehow too much in the brevity. Yeah, they could have pulled back a little bit more.

 

00:21:30:20 - 00:21:51:06

 

I can't help but thinking, you know, for the, the 90s kids that this must have been and this is, this is a this is a blue observation. This must have been, a movie that they queued up for masturbatory material for, like, six years, you know? Yeah. Like all those women saw my high. Yeah. I mean, this is this.

 

00:21:51:06 - 00:22:09:20

 

This is the generation my generation used to do, like I. Yeah, the Victoria's Secret magazine and I run rampant with my like, they was just pre Pornhub. There was nothing else out there. This give me dusk till dawn but. And it one on one you know I mean it had to happen for a lot of people. Yeah. Yeah.

 

00:22:09:22 - 00:22:38:00

 

Just till dawn is the Victoria's Secret masturbatory material for Gen-xers for the other night, I mean. Yeah. Yeah. That's beautiful. Hike. It's so beautiful. I just, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Well, this is it's funny because, you know, Quinn's obvious and very public foot fetish, right? Yeah. And you see it? Yeah. This is. I always wonder, like when when somebody is making a movie, especially if they're, like, the writer director or.

 

00:22:38:00 - 00:22:54:14

 

And then also the star, and they put themselves in these roles that, like have to do something like what Quentin does with Salma Hayek. It's so I don't know, it's like it makes me feel weird and do it like do and yeah, obviously. And like this is like one of those like prime examples of being like, okay, dude.

 

00:22:54:14 - 00:23:16:05

 

Like he's like Robert, Robert, this isn't in the script. What if I feel like Seth would want to put the her foot in his mouth? Do you think just I'm just throwing it out there. We can't. We could try it out. We could shoot it if we got. But just see what happens. Yeah. Oh, God. Yeah. So, you know, speaking of Salma Hayek, this is our very first monster reveal of the movie.

 

00:23:16:07 - 00:23:40:16

 

This is syntactical pandemonium, which I just found out. You know, she's got that snake on as she's doing her dance. And, speaking of monster reveals, this is, like, such a grand entrance for our, our main monster here. But it was written in the script that she was, like, her vampire form was like a rodent. You know, which we'll see later with the machine.

 

00:23:40:16 - 00:23:58:19

 

Yeah, but. Yeah. But then they were like, well, hey, she's got the snake on. Let's make her more, more reptilian, more snake like. And so, that's so interesting, though, because now I, I want to read the script because we, we were kind of talking about they kind of played a little loose with the, the, the logic behind How to Kill a Vampire.

 

00:23:58:19 - 00:24:18:18

 

And it's kind of like the rules of a vampire, but it seems like even the look of it. So, okay, now I'm going. I'll try to contain myself, but we call them vampires, like, because they play by certain vampiric lore, obviously. But then they also kind of just talk about how that these are creatures from hell, and this really just opens up being like this battle between like, good and like traditional like good and evil.

 

00:24:18:18 - 00:24:39:03

 

So maybe like by those, by the film's logic is they're not quote unquote vampires, they just are demons. And in our world, what we know of like in the world of like, genuine loves to reference film and in literature. So maybe in his head he's like, they're not actually vampires. So we can play this, can play loose with the logic.

 

00:24:39:05 - 00:24:57:12

 

But for all intents and purposes, we're going to call them vampires. They, you know, they make sure they drink your blood. That's that's enough. They turn into bats, that's enough. But otherwise they can also kind of just do everything else that. Yeah, there's no there's no form that they take. It's just it can be whatever I don't know with like demonic there's no logic.

 

00:24:57:12 - 00:25:27:10

 

Yeah. I'm trying to find the logic in me explaining the lack of logic. And it's like tripping up over that, right? Yeah. There wasn't a lot of uniformity. Right towards the. When you get in that last chapter, they're stuck in the room. RV Keitel's with the kids. He's been bitten. They they tend to those schools that come out like once the bats come in and they've established themselves as whatever this population that we learn maybe was at the bottom of the pyramid and we kind of get like a uniformity.

 

00:25:27:10 - 00:25:45:07

 

But up until that point, it was like there's a lot of different type of genius species up here. Yeah. No. So yeah, maybe there was like a subspecies of these demon vampire things. Like there's the ones that can turn into bats. There's the ones that are more rat like, the ones that are snake like. Yeah. I also haven't seen the sequel.

 

00:25:45:07 - 00:26:01:10

 

So maybe this is like a thing that they just cover it. I didn't even know. Was it 2 or 3? Yeah. Yeah, I saw this. I saw them when I was a kid, but they're definitely not, not out there, actually. You know, we were talking about Robert Patrick. I think he's in he's actually in the sequel. He's in part two.

 

00:26:01:12 - 00:26:20:07

 

Okay. Okay. And then I think two might be like, like a continuation and then three, I think goes back and it's like in the past, it's like a Western kind of thing. I think it's called the Hangman's Daughter or something like that. And, I'd like to see him again. But then, you know, they also made a show to,

 

00:26:20:09 - 00:26:43:03

 

Oh, yeah. But one of the things I was kind of wondering, like, when watching this, I was like, what is the point of Richie and Seth's relationship? You know, like, they could have just been, like, two criminals together and then, like, getting to the same spot, like, there's not, like, what is it? Like, why did it have to be this, like, brothers?

 

00:26:43:05 - 00:27:08:05

 

Well, not brothers, but, like, what is the point of, like, they have a conflict too. Yeah. Is that, you know. And so but that got me thinking. And then I realized this whole movie is about belief and faith. And because almost every character asks another character if they believe them about something, you know, Richie can't. You can't trust or believe anything Richie does because he doesn't.

 

00:27:08:07 - 00:27:25:10

 

You know, he's not all there. And so Seth doesn't really believe Richie. Seth asks Kate if she believes him at one point. And then you got Harvey Keitel's character, Jacob, talking about his faith, and everyone's asking each other if they believe them. Or do you believe me? Or does he believe this? Or do you believe in God?

 

00:27:25:10 - 00:27:44:19

 

Or do you believe in this? And it's like, that's kind of like the encompassing thing of this whole movie is, is faith and belief. And, if you go back and watch it, you'll notice that, like because I've seen this movie, so many goddamn times that like this time, as I was taking notes on it for the first time, it was like, oh yeah, everyone's asking somebody about belief.

 

00:27:44:21 - 00:28:05:21

 

And I just thought that was that was pretty cool. Yeah. That's interesting. I mean, there's obviously like that relationship between them is it's you think of like, and maybe this is a stretch, but like with that conversation of like faith and belief and like how you have unconditional love for someone. But really it is kind of conditional in some cases with like with, with faith.

 

00:28:05:21 - 00:28:25:21

 

So I think George or Seth is kind of contending with that. Like what does it mean to love my brother, you know, what is it to to unconditionally love him? And who is he? I don't I feel like there's a lot of self-reflection going on and, like, finding themselves and this, this journey toward. I don't know, I feel like the whole movie is like this internal journey and an external journey of faith.

 

00:28:25:21 - 00:28:47:06

 

And also just like understanding, like who I am on this path to kind of like, am I good or am I bad? And Seth ends up being like this character who is very much in the middle, but maybe despite all of the shit he's done, leans more toward good. You know? Good. Yeah. Like, yeah. At the end of the day, he is the hero because it just comes out naturally.

 

00:28:47:08 - 00:29:07:14

 

Well, like he says at the end, he says, you know, I may be a bastard, but I'm not a fucking bastard. Yeah, yeah. I was like, that's a great little thesis. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, yeah. And then, I mean, we're I'm kind of jumping ahead, but, there's that great scene with Jacob when Jacob tells Seth he's like, are you such a loser that you don't know when you've won?

 

00:29:07:18 - 00:29:24:02

 

Yeah. And you see, Seth kind of register that, and he does, and he gets mad. He does his classic like, oh, I'm going to beat you up over this. You stand in his face. He has, like, twitches like his his his eyes twitch and stuff. Yeah. But he still takes it. And you realize it's like Jacob is you really.

 

00:29:24:02 - 00:29:46:07

 

He's just a guy who does have guidance, you know? Whereas, like, Richie is he's psychotic, like he is. We even see that when, like, he thinks he hears Juliette Lewis, his character, say something to him and she obviously didn't like he's lost. Whereas, like, Cara keeps throwing their names around. Seth is just someone who has zero guidance because he's the one guiding the psychopath, but there's no one guiding him.

 

00:29:46:07 - 00:30:04:15

 

And then he meets Jacob. Who is this, like, fantastic father figure? And he kind of gives him tough love, which is probably something that he never had. And I think that helps him sort of on his journey. And maybe I'm derailing too far from what you were talking about with like, this idea of, oh, no, but I feel like there's something there with like, faith.

 

00:30:04:15 - 00:30:21:23

 

And that whole journey is there's some kind of connective thread, but, yeah, I mean, I derailed us completely because we were talking about let's keep. Okay, this is literally about like, let's just go like the train is off the track. So let's eat that there. Well, let's just jump, you know, let's just jump to our second reveal.

 

00:30:22:01 - 00:30:51:23

 

This all happens very quickly, but, Santana turns into a vampire, and then everyone else does, and they just, like, start popping up everywhere. And this is where, like, answers, shit answers and security. Yeah. The band, the band. My favorite reveals again. I'll just not even mention logic, because I just love the whole the body parts and the guitars and yeah, yeah, someone just had an idea and was like, let's, let's, let's try this out.

 

00:30:52:00 - 00:31:12:18

 

Like, why would they have to worry about it? You question. But one thing I found out, like you, when when Danny Trejo's character sits up and the other like bouncer guy sits up and Cheech Marin sits up, that was shot backwards. They oh, they laid down and then they reversed it and sped it up. So it looks like they're just like rising from the dead.

 

00:31:12:18 - 00:31:28:21

 

And I thought that was pretty fucking cool. Everything that's like a thing in vampire movies, I didn't they do that. Maybe it's not Bela Lugosi, but I had seen that or had heard about that done. And like some behind the scenes movies where to get that effect of, well, have you ever tried to like, have it? I mean, that's like a perfect score.

 

00:31:28:21 - 00:31:51:17

 

It's like it's something control that you need from that. And you're like this era is going to kind of flick it. And that's, that's been messing period. Yeah. Was easier. Was playing for two and a half years or. Yeah. Looking at Danny Trejo, you know, Danny Trejo might have been able to pull that off. Yeah, I don't think so.

 

00:31:51:19 - 00:32:10:12

 

Changes like we just reverse the film. So yeah, it was it was their idea because they couldn't like I got an idea. Here's a here's how we do it. Yeah. But yeah, you get the, you get, a lot of transformations. You get the girl, who, like, locks the door, and she says dinner and served.

 

00:32:10:12 - 00:32:28:05

 

And then, like, her whole face turns and it's just like fucking chaos. Everyone's getting ripped apart and and, which I was surprised when we were doing, we were counting the different reveals. I was like, I feel like this episode's going to be pretty straightforward in terms of like, they just don't. They just turn it up like, oh no.

 

00:32:28:05 - 00:32:52:00

 

Then there's this. They turn into vampire. Then we have like, we have round two coming up with like, yeah, yeah, we're trying to get to, but this is in part of it again, this is me watching the second time when I was younger and I was obviously I that was I was attracted to it, whatever. But it was a little bit like like when just to sidestep just for a second and not derail is completely like Jason.

 

00:32:52:00 - 00:33:06:11

 

It's like, like Jason and like, you know, it was one thing as a kid, I was always scared by it. And then. But there's another thing, like knowing that, like, there's boobs and stuff. So, yeah, the kid, I was like, why would he go in there? And as they're doing, I'm like, well, I could see why I've.

 

00:33:06:13 - 00:33:32:08

 

Yeah. And there's this element to that. The stakes are higher because like, well, it'd be hard to say no on that one. Yeah, yeah. And then and then it happens, you know, so I think, I think I understood the conceit a little bit better. Yeah. Totally. But which it's funny, you know, you talk about Jason, that heart that was pumping, when they reminded me of Friday, nine.

 

00:33:32:10 - 00:33:49:06

 

Jason goes to hell. Yeah. That's the heart. That's the that's the literally the heart. Yeah, that is the, the actual prop that they used that was pumping and they had it, because Kane kissed Candy K and B did the effects for that, too. And so they had it and they were like, let's use that heart again.

 

00:33:49:06 - 00:34:10:07

 

And I thought that was pretty cool. It's like, so Jason. But yeah, I do love how the, like this, the classic 80s slasher logic extends to this movie, too. It and it's not even like some, like, camp counselors. It's like, no, it's just going to be the strip club like you. There is really no escape from any of it.

 

00:34:10:09 - 00:34:35:06

 

Yeah. The the nudity and the the port of it all and also the, the carnage. Totally. Yeah. No escape. Okay, our third reveal, this is, when Seth meets Richie as a vampire. He meets his brother, who is like, I was like, fucking Frankenstein's monster. He's got, like, the big head and, yeah, you know, a bigger chin and that always.

 

00:34:35:07 - 00:34:57:02

 

That always. You know, as a kid that I was scared. Me too. And he like, he turns and he says, I love you too, Seth. And then his face is like, oh, turns into the vampire that always got freaked out. Let's get shot. And so this is a huge turning point for we were talking about Seth and his little journey because he actually kind of fairly quickly decides, like, all right, I got to kill him, you know?

 

00:34:57:02 - 00:35:18:00

 

Which is usually you get those, usually see that in a lot of zombie movies. Yeah. But he doesn't let the other person kill him, right? He's like, that's a great point. Yeah. And then he's like, like, I gotta do it, you know? And he sees, you know, he you you see that shot of him like seeing him as his brother, but he's like, he's still sees the fangs and he's like, I know this isn't real.

 

00:35:18:00 - 00:35:41:02

 

And I know he's. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's a good scene. It's a good scene. Yeah. Also, Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez like, that's a heavy task to feel sympathy not just for these two criminals, but then also for, I mean, not really feeling sorry for Richie, but it's just kind of like a package deal where he's such a hatable coyote.

 

00:35:41:02 - 00:36:04:22

 

So evil, which was established earlier on for us to still to get sympathy out of that is that's like a masterclass. And in storytelling and character development, it's pretty wild. Totally. Yeah. So then, you know, Jacobs or not, Jacob, Seth starts drinking and Jacob's like, hey, we need you sober. Then this is where the bikers and the truckers also, like, coming back to life.

 

00:36:05:00 - 00:36:22:12

 

Yeah. Round two. I forget what the first, what was the first one that does that? Who's the first one we see come back to life? I don't know, I, I think it's just, like, random. Just a random dude. Well, because they hear the bats. Oh, yeah. And they'll like, what's that sound? And Seth is like bats.

 

00:36:22:12 - 00:36:41:00

 

And he's kind of realizing, like, we're in a vampire movie. Like, this is what's happening. Like, they're not going, gonna beat around the bush. I'm not going to waste my time questioning. Yeah. So yeah, we get a round of bikers and truckers turning back into vampires and, and, we get that great shot with, I guess it's like a sequence with Kate trying to, you know.

 

00:36:41:02 - 00:37:02:21

 

Yeah. Get up the nerve to stab that one dude in the chest and, Yeah. Meanwhile, Tom Savini, sex machine, it's just like, what is it, Frost that takes? He impales them for different vampires. Oh, yeah. The four lines of the turn. Yeah. That's so good. Yeah, yeah, there's some there's some really fun, some stuff in this, when they're killing the vampires.

 

00:37:02:21 - 00:37:27:02

 

And. But this is where sex machine ultimately gets bit. Yeah. Heartbreaking. This broke my heart. Yeah. Watch this as a kid, because he's kind of designed to be the coolest character. He's got the, you know, the dick gun and the with the leather jacket, and it's fucking Tom Savini. Like, he's, as a kid, I didn't realize, like, who he was behind the scenes, but always wanted a fucking dick gun as a kid.

 

00:37:27:04 - 00:37:31:10

 

I still want a dick.

 

00:37:31:12 - 00:37:54:12

 

There are I I'm not pro gun, but I'm not anti dick gun. That's that's my stance on gun rights. Yeah. And so you know, we talked about, Seth realizing he's in a vampire movie between our fourth and fifth reveals this is where we get that great, back and forth between him and where he's kind of like, we're dealing with vampires.

 

00:37:54:14 - 00:38:07:10

 

I don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes. And what I saw was vampires. And then, you know, they're kind of talking about, like, how do we kill a vampire? And they're like, all talking about their things, and you're talking about silver. He's like, oh, that's werewolf. Oh, but no, silver has something to do with it.

 

00:38:07:14 - 00:38:30:12

 

And Kate's like, does anyone have any silver? Then who cares? I can love that. But meanwhile, you know, then we get, Fred Williamson, who is Frost talking about his his Vietnam story and our fifth reveal takes place during this speech as we start to see Sex Machine slowly turn into a vampire. And he's noticing all these little things, and it's so fun.

 

00:38:30:14 - 00:38:49:14

 

He plays it so well, you know, like with Larry Tooth, and he's trying to hide everything and the fingers coming up to on Frost or. Great. Oh yeah. Yeah. And you know okay, we go back to logic where it's like how did they not see him. Yeah. But it's just you don't think about that because it's so fun and it's creepy.

 

00:38:49:14 - 00:39:13:07

 

It just works. Yeah. So, Gilly, you were mentioning, Buster Keaton and, like, the silent era of filmmaking and this is all just like it is kind of. I mean, I'm not going to imply that, like, this is, but the clowning, you know, like, that's all. It's all physical comedy. And this whole scene is him putting on this silent performance, just revealing this like other part of him, which.

 

00:39:13:09 - 00:39:32:15

 

Yeah, it's just I think, you know, and that's I in American Clown. I one of the interviews we had is with, David Howard Thornton, which plays Art Terrifier, and it's very much steeped in sort of high physical comedy and stuff. So absolutely. Sure there's that place for all this, you know. Yeah, he plays that really well.

 

00:39:32:17 - 00:39:53:18

 

Yeah, this Art the clown. Yeah. He's like, yeah, Casey is our. Yeah, it's a shame he's in here because oh yeah. Yeah. She's obsessed. Yeah. She's she's met him a couple times I think. And she's he's real slow. Yeah. But Sex Machine bites Frost. And this is our six reveal, which Frost turns into, like the vampire.

 

00:39:53:19 - 00:40:16:12

 

Like boss so fast. Right. Well, later, Jacob says something. He's like, I have about an hour. I know. Right? I you about. But we're we're set up, right? Yeah. If I'm not mistaken, I think he even, like, looks at his watch. He's like, I think I'll turn into a vampire within the hour. Yeah, he is the embodiment of blind faith.

 

00:40:16:12 - 00:40:39:09

 

He's like, I believe that I've got enough done. Did you see from it? Took him three minutes. Yeah, yeah. They don't have that. He literally turn. It's literally turns and he turns. He turns back. Yeah. He's a vampire. But it has a great shot of him, like he opens the game, right? And then, so things come through.

 

00:40:39:09 - 00:40:59:04

 

It really looks really pretty. And it's such a big shot, which makes me wonder. Okay, so before we get to our next reveal in this, when he. When Frost throws, sex machine into the, he's throw a sex machine right into the door. Yes. What crushes it open. Yeah. Where do you stand? Do you think that was Frost throwing him in and just so happened to hit the door?

 

00:40:59:04 - 00:41:19:06

 

Do you think it was Vampire Frost being like, I am now a vampire? Let's. I think he's strategic. I totally understand because I've thought that before, but I think it was just frost throwing him and then being like, you know, not intentionally doing it. Yeah, but by the time he was out, vampires took credit, though, he's like, it should do that.

 

00:41:19:06 - 00:41:40:07

 

Yeah, I'd do it. Yeah, yeah. Kind of happens on the reveal, right? He comes out on the reveal and yeah, it's interesting. He's like, you guys see that? Yeah. You know, I was just thinking, Danny, you had mentioned earlier about like, they're, they're, we call them vampires, but they're kind of just like demons because they take so many different forms.

 

00:41:40:09 - 00:41:58:02

 

When I was watching the behind the scenes, video that I saw, the Titty Twister was just like a facade, right? It was just like the. Yeah, when they were filming it, it wasn't an actual building. They just built like the front. And, the temple was real, though, right? The. Oh, yeah. The ancient temple was actually there at the end.

 

00:41:58:02 - 00:42:19:05

 

Yeah. They dug out so that you could see everything. Yeah, there's a couple lines. I mean, there's a lot there are great places to. Yeah. You know, we talk about mat paintings quite a bit, on this show, and, like, great. When I fucking love that. But. Yeah. So anyways, what you were saying about, like, being demons.

 

00:42:19:06 - 00:42:34:09

 

Rodriguez said that they designed the titty twister with, like, the flames and everything to almost. They wanted to make it feel like the gates of hell. He said. That's fun. And so I thought that was kind of neat that, you know, going to your point about demons and then having all the flames and making it feel like the gates of hell.

 

00:42:34:09 - 00:42:50:06

 

So it's funny, we did what was it I don't know. We didn't you know, we did critters two for one of our watch alongs. And there's that scene. We did a full episode on critters two. What am I? Oh, leprechaun two is what I'm thinking. Leprechaun two. Yeah, he's going when the guy thinks he's walking toward a pair of breasts.

 

00:42:50:06 - 00:43:12:10

 

But it's only the lawnmower blades. Yeah, sorry. I always feel like that is like now, the theme of this episode where it's like wrestler people to their to sully, they built a shrine to it, like bugs to light like bugs. Yeah. I. And dude, like, it's all dudes. He just like, it's super dumbed down when they see the.

 

00:43:12:12 - 00:43:23:14

 

It's like. Yeah, it's just like the eyes glaze. That's not real at all. Nothing. Yeah. No, not at all. No.

 

00:43:23:16 - 00:43:47:13

 

That's hilarious. All right, so our seventh reveal is, you know, these sex machine Frost and this reveal our seventh one. Kind of all happened simultaneously. This is where all the bats come in. And then Jacob, who is behind the bar at this point, now he stands up and he has made his cross out of the shotgun, and everything else is gone.

 

00:43:47:13 - 00:44:08:12

 

And hit it in the back. Yeah, Jacob's still behind the bar. And so he's kind of meeting all of these bats who have now transformed and, and these are the. That's how I've been distinguishing him. So these are the vampire bat vampires. Yeah. Right. So there's about there's uniformity to it. Yeah, yeah. The portions of the temple of the locals.

 

00:44:08:12 - 00:44:28:11

 

So it makes me wonder, like these vampires, it's not just. Yeah, like you say, the locals, like they're not just in here. They like. I mean, I guess they, like, go home at some point, right? Because, like, where did all these bats come over? They just, like, must live in the area, like, I don't know, but I think it's like the temple where they just go down.

 

00:44:28:14 - 00:44:58:02

 

They've got their own beliefs or some of them have like stuff in front of their doors, like little, little, you know, little, welcome bats. Welcome. That's nice. Welcome back to that. Yeah. Welcome back. Yeah. But there was only like, I think there was like 9 or 12 of those guys. And that shot is like a composite shot where, that's they put them on a blue screen and they, like, multiplied them in, in post.

 

00:44:58:04 - 00:45:14:09

 

It looks like more stick. Yeah, yeah. But it's funny, I was watching that video and like, you see, like the behind the scenes shot of some of them and they're just like in boxer shorts, but like their top halves have all these fucking like, yeah, crazy monster makeup and then like, their bottom half. It's just like legs and boxers.

 

00:45:14:09 - 00:45:43:14

 

Like regular legs that really leggings. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And, on RuPaul's Drag Race, there's. I don't know if it's a rumor, but it's kind of a running gag that when they're in the judging part of it. RuPaul, when she's sitting behind the table, she's dressed up, but underneath it, just wearing, like, shorts and. Okay. And there's a, there's it's a reminds me of that, but there's a, there's an episode where during one of the they're, they're judging and they ask a question or they ask them to ask a question.

 

00:45:43:14 - 00:45:55:04

 

And one of the queens is like, Will you stand up? And ru just looks at them and it's kind of like, you're going to be eliminated next.

 

00:45:55:06 - 00:46:18:14

 

So basically the same yeah. Same logic. Yeah. That's funny. But yeah, I always thought that was so cool. Like with Jacob and his his his cross with the show. Yeah. Like so epic. Just. Yeah. Fucking a crucifix is. Yeah. Not something I well that in that. I can't believe we just kind of blew over with, frost when the shotguns stuck in there for, like.

 

00:46:18:14 - 00:46:37:10

 

Oh, yeah, to, to cock it through the body. Yeah, that. Love that. It's so good. Yeah. We're gonna we're going to come back to that. That's, we're going to. Because I don't think Jacob has met Frost yet. Oh. That's later. Oh yeah. That's later. That's when it gets in their face. Yeah. That's such a that's such a fun thing.

 

00:46:37:10 - 00:46:56:06

 

So we're going to come back to that for sure. But right now is our eighth reveal. This is after they have Jacob has gotten to the back. They've done that really cool montage of like I love like a getting ready montage. And this is one of the best. It's love the way they set it up where they're like, it's it's from all the shipments stolen from truckers.

 

00:46:56:06 - 00:47:25:17

 

Yeah. So clever, so simple, but so clever. Yeah, they have the crossbow, but, Seth has the jackhammer stake. Just so not. It's functional, but it's not. Kids, just forget to, like, just stab people that, like. Okay. Yeah, right. Like, the holy water gun is pretty cool. Which I thought would be a I was thinking last night, I was like, it would be so fucking funny if you're blessing the water didn't work, and it's just fucked because that's all I had.

 

00:47:25:17 - 00:47:41:15

 

It was fucking a water gun and problems were a priest, right? You just more. He just fucking gets demolished, right? That's what happens when you go and you know, you lose.

 

00:47:41:17 - 00:48:01:15

 

But when they're getting ready, that's another moment where, we talk about beliefs, where Jacob's like, hey, when I turn, you need to kill me. And they're like, okay, yeah, we'll do it. And he's like, how come I don't believe you? Like, do it again? So just a little thing. I also yeah, just the conviction also just comes from the fact that it's fucking Harvey Keitel.

 

00:48:01:17 - 00:48:18:19

 

I sometimes friggin like Harvey Keitel just in this, like it's not a silly vampire movie, but because it's with everything we've talked about who's behind the scenes, but for all intents and purposes, it is just like kind of a romp, like a horror action romp. And yeah, he is putting in a performance that is very, oddly tender.

 

00:48:18:21 - 00:48:39:14

 

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was character work, you know, not his usual sort of thing, you know, it's where he's like, it's beautiful, even to the point that he literally like, puts on the makeup. A later on spoiler for a future reveal, but, yeah. And he just kind of leans into it. It it's it's a lot of fun seeing someone, you know, you look at, like, a lot of the roles that he's.

 

00:48:39:14 - 00:49:13:14

 

I just watched, Copland for the first time. So good. And it's such a dark and, like, serious performance. Then, it's just it's always nice to see actors, kind of change it up a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. But Seth, Scott and Kate meet the vampire bats. For the first time, actually, when the bats are flying in and the three of them are running to the back room to get away from them, it cuts to Seth on the other side of the door, and he's shutting it, and there's, like, a full size vampire getting trying to get in.

 

00:49:13:14 - 00:49:30:20

 

Oh, in the. Yeah, I almost counted that. Well, I heard, in watching the behind the scenes, Rodriguez was like, oh, that's a continuity error. Like, it doesn't make sense that they were bats. And then he's full sized. And he said, like, instead of like reshooting it, we were just going to like, leave it in there. I always thought that was on purpose.

 

00:49:30:20 - 00:49:48:12

 

And I think it's it's like an some I just, I always thought that was like such a fucking cool thing. I love it. And then to hear him say, this is not even yourself, it was a mistake, but we're going to leave it. I was like, okay, damn, I'm still going to see these things. It's like that when you have like anxiety and you're like calling something out, you know, like no one noticed that.

 

00:49:48:12 - 00:50:08:09

 

We would have never said it. Yeah, you. Yeah. Robert. That's okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'm definitely going to link this video that I watched, in our show notes down there because it's it's really fun. I learned a lot about this movie and, a lot of the, the makeup effects and stuff like that. So, but here it is, our ninth reveal.

 

00:50:08:11 - 00:50:26:11

 

This is Sex Machine round two. He's like the devil. I call him a devil dog, but it's more like a rat. But, you know, he gets his head yanked off, and then he's on all fours and it's just starts, like, shaking and it grows out. And what a cool this, which is so fucking cool thing in. What?

 

00:50:26:11 - 00:50:47:12

 

What is it? Oh, I know what it is. So this movie, this whole second act of the movie really reminds me a lot. It has a very similar energy to Peter Jackson's, Dead Alive, where it's just like, bloody carnage. Except in that one. It's more zombies. This one's more. But even down to this transformation reminds me of the rat monster.

 

00:50:47:12 - 00:51:07:23

 

The zombie rat? Yeah, like, starts everything right. I always wonder if that was kind of intentional. You know, they're kind of doing this kind of bloody romp. Like, what if we just kind of. It might just make sense? Like, there's no reason for it to turn into this creature, this very specific. Well, yeah. Because, you know, again, I know I keep referencing this video, but like, it was so informative.

 

00:51:08:01 - 00:51:46:13

 

The, the one trucker who is a vampire and he doesn't have any legs and he's crawling after crawling. Yeah. Yeah. That they said was like an homage to Peter Jackson with that alive. So that totally makes sense that the rat thing was also like, I mean, it's obviously not like a literal like interpretation of it, but even the the jackhammer and even the the way that they use the shotgun with the making it across, feels very much in the way I can't remember the character's name from Dead Alive, but the way he, he also, he basically utilizes things that aren't weapons as weapons when he attacks the.

 

00:51:46:13 - 00:52:07:17

 

Yeah. Is it the lawnmower he's got? Is he, like, literally mows them down with the lawnmower? Yeah, yeah. All right, all right. Listeners, this is us officially stating that a great, great triple feature, a great double feature would be Peter Jackson's Dead Alive and Robert Rodriguez's From Dusk Till Dawn. Oh, yeah. Perfect night. That would be fun.

 

00:52:07:17 - 00:52:26:06

 

Horror movies I hate it feature watch alone. When the rat came out, it it kind of it had for me and as a kid and it's just one of the the original thing, you know, or the thing. Yeah, I just but it kind of had that, that metamorphosis that happens in the end. Totally. What is that. You know.

 

00:52:26:06 - 00:52:46:14

 

Yeah. And it's all goopy and slimy and. Yeah, that's a good reference too, because we were we keep bringing up kind of like the logic of this and that movie. Like it kind of is built on the bones of not having logic. Like the thing just becomes it does whatever the host is like. Yeah, exactly. Like like this sort of alien asks.

 

00:52:46:14 - 00:53:05:00

 

Yeah. And even then it's like an A, it's a weird interpretation of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like it's like, like that it screws up the DNA. It's like weird. Yeah. Yeah. You know. Yeah. Like we we assume that this is what it is, right? Yeah. Okay. So I scratch what I said. It's not a double feature is going to be a triple feature feature.

 

00:53:05:01 - 00:53:26:07

 

Carpenter's the thing, and you've got yourself a perfect night. There you go. Yeah, there you go. Okay. Bringing it back to our shotgun. This is our 10th reveal. This is, Jacob meets Frost for the first time because he was thrown behind the bar, so he didn't meet Frost as the vampire, but now he does. And, they talked about their bodies earlier being, like, soft.

 

00:53:26:09 - 00:53:55:09

 

And so he, like, just shoves the. He stabs them with the fucking shotgun. And then, he sees vampires behind them. So he starts cocking the gun with, just like, through his. Oh, I love how unnecessary it is, but it's just so fun to watch. It's such a fun visual, I love it. Yeah. And this bleeds right into our 11th reveal, where as soon as frost is gone, Jacob's about to be attacked by some of the other vampires, and they just kind of back off and you're like, oh, okay.

 

00:53:55:09 - 00:54:15:09

 

Is that so much? That's one of my favorite moments. Is they just like, walk away and you're like, oh, shit. And, he turns and it's that the makeup on him is pretty scary. I mean, it's, Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's he, he's got he's like still has like the beard. Like it's like whiskers almost. And then you notice sharp.

 

00:54:15:10 - 00:54:33:17

 

It's very, like traditional devil, you know. It has. He almost looks. Oh yeah. The pointed chin and almost like kind of has that sort of satanic look, which is kind of fitting for him because he's, you know. Yeah. I wonder if they did that on purpose to like. Yeah, kind of do the opposite of what his, his, you know, his faith.

 

00:54:33:19 - 00:54:52:22

 

But Scott fucks it all up. Know because he can't do it. He said he could do it and he didn't do it. And then he throws the holy water condom. Oh that's right, it does melt off some of his face, but he doesn't commit fully. Yeah. And then Scott gets attacked and then explodes. It's like was. Yeah.

 

00:54:52:22 - 00:55:15:18

 

He's not even like a full vampire. Yeah. His whole body explodes and. Yeah. And what was that? Is the body pieces everywhere. Oh, really quickly. I really quickly just want to mention the band when they, they turn to the band and the singer is like, all right, good night. And it's like the classic like. But then they excellently.

 

00:55:15:20 - 00:55:40:15

 

Yeah. They explode themselves. Yeah. Like they were like, for good or they're not paid enough or paid enough for this shit. So yeah. Or I was sort it could have been a distraction. They exited through the back or something. But yeah, I think the inference is that they all die. Yeah. Yeah, that makes more sense that they were just like, yeah, but you know, like they could have like blown up their fucking body guitars.

 

00:55:40:16 - 00:56:11:06

 

Right. He's got, he's like playing a guitar like right. The cars are fine. Right. Like they would have that blown up too. Hey I think we're all artists here in different ways. And I think, you know, we all have to make sacrifices for our art. And I think that. Yes. Tarantino just being very literal, having been on a set a lot and, you know, and often sometimes when they're doing some sort of like, all those prosthetics and stuff, it was funny that, I mean, it looks great, but, you know, like, like with, with a lot of the characters, like, they get to the face.

 

00:56:11:06 - 00:56:27:16

 

It's almost like we need him on set. It's like, okay, he's good, he's good, he's good. Like, you know, you know, like, there's this, like, yeah, what, in the summer, you know, I mean, it looks great, but yeah, they're just like we did the face. That's good enough. We're just. Yeah. Shot. That's all we need. So. Yeah.

 

00:56:27:22 - 00:56:51:21

 

Yeah. Just don't shoot from here down front. Right. A little bit a little bit. That's hilarious. Okay, so this is the end of the movie. This is our 12th and final reveal. Kate has now shot her brother Scott. He blew up. It's just her and Seth, and they're fighting the vampires, and, you know, I never thought about the the logic in this when I was younger.

 

00:56:51:21 - 00:57:12:14

 

As she shoots holes in the walls, he's like, shoot more holes. And she's got, like, I don't know, like, couple of bullets left. So she's shooting holes, but there's a good chance that she would hit, like, some concrete or something. That's what twister and like. And every shot was a direct hit into a, like a thin piece of football.

 

00:57:12:14 - 00:57:32:20

 

I would I was like, okay, but I know 12th reveal. Carlos who? Seth and Richie were down there to meet him and his his, thugs, I guess, busted open the door and they see all the people there just before they explode, when all the sunlight touches them. And, you know, what is it he says, what were they, psychos?

 

00:57:32:22 - 00:57:42:10

 

He's like. He's like, psychos don't explode with some. Like it's, I don't know, like how crazy they are.

 

00:57:42:12 - 00:57:58:05

 

But yeah, from dusk till dawn. Such a fun fucking movie. I love it so much. Okay, now we are going to go through and we're going to pick our favorite reveal of From Dusk Till Dawn and.

 

00:57:58:06 - 00:58:14:03

 

All of their. I don't see anyone. That's how they can choose their on the goddamn.

 

00:58:14:05 - 00:58:39:18

 

Here we go. I'm going to do a speed round recap. We've got sand tentacle pandemonium. We've got the first round of vampires. Stripper vampires. We've got Richie turning into a vampire. Bikers and truckers. We've got sex machine, we've got Frost, we've got, when the bats come in and Jacob meets them all with his shotgun cross.

 

00:58:39:20 - 00:59:01:06

 

Seth, Kate and Scott meet the vampires. Sex machine turns into a devil. I'm still going to call him a devil dog, but he's more like a rat. But I'm going to say Devil dog. And then we've got Jacob meeting Frost, Jacob turning into a vampire, and, Carlos and, the exploding psychos. You guys, what is what was one of your favorite reveals in, From Dusk Till Dawn?

 

00:59:01:08 - 00:59:17:19

 

I thought the obvious. I thought I was going to come into this being like, oh, it's Santana. Go pandemonium. It's psychotic. It's. It's kind of like it is. I even made a note. I was like, I think this might be one of the coolest monster intro like reveals that we've done on the show. Yeah, as of the before, everything we've talked about our.

 

00:59:17:20 - 00:59:39:15

 

Yeah, but I do think my favorite reveal was, Sex Machine. Okay. Yeah. Because it does kind of like, again, we we talked about it just like the, the, the physical humor of it, the performance, the the visual gags. But then also how it is really disturbing, like the hands coming up behind Frost our eyes. I'm feeling a lot of emotions.

 

00:59:39:15 - 01:00:04:02

 

I'm feeling humor. I'm feeling fear, you know. Yeah. And it's it's just it's it's it's, it kind of encapsulates exactly what the tone of this movie is. Perfectly. So. Yeah. Go with, sex machine. Okay. All right. Gilly, do you have a favorite? Yeah. You know, I think I'm a sucker for storylines, and I am a sucker for emotions, so I really do.

 

01:00:04:02 - 01:00:25:20

 

Like Harvey Keitel's reveal is his, you know, like, when all the kids are there, they've made this promise. You're like, do you like it here? I don't know what's going on. And then you know, and then and then again, this vampire just kind of back away and you're like the oh, shit, there you go. You knew again and you knew just him letting him in was like, why are you letting me know he's going to turn?

 

01:00:25:20 - 01:00:46:16

 

He was bitten. Yeah. And then you just, you know, it's a ticking time bomb, you know? Right. But, I'm just I'm such a I love the emotion of that stuff, you know? I just love that, like, oh, they're going to kill their dad. Boom boom. That's. Yeah, yeah. And even getting down to, like, you know, I'm still going to stick to this fucking point about beliefs and faith.

 

01:00:46:18 - 01:01:06:20

 

Even, like, with the belief and the like. Seth finally, like, trust Jacob enough to believe him when he's, like, banging on the door and he's like, let me in. Like, I'm still good and they can't see him, but they're just like, okay. Like I believe them. And he he lets them in. And so, you know, the fucking he like the vampires back off of Jacob.

 

01:01:06:20 - 01:01:23:16

 

And like, Scott looks at his watch, he's like, fuck, is it been an hour or God damn it, that was a quick hour. Oh, is that okay? Is this. Yeah. And then like, yeah, fucking Kate comes over and it's like, oh like his watch stopped or something. And they're like trying to figure it out. I don't know.

 

01:01:23:17 - 01:01:42:18

 

It could be like a whole thing. But, I'm going to go with, Santana go pandemonium. Because it is such like a it's that moment in the movie, like, if you go into this not knowing what it is, and then that's like the thing it's like, oh, shit, like, what the fuck? I thought this was just like a a crime movie.

 

01:01:42:18 - 01:02:08:01

 

And then we get, vampires and, it's just, it's so cool. And and that, when Danny Trejo stabs Quentin's hand with the knife, and then Kate sees it on the thing, it's like dripping blood, right? I always thought until just this recent viewing that it was like a green bullet. No. Oh, I was I was like, no, it is.

 

01:02:08:03 - 01:02:24:14

 

For some reason, I was like, the blade was green, and I just looks like I just, took that as fact. But then this time I'm like, oh, no, it's the fucking blood that's green. I can't tell you how many times I've seen this fucking movie. And I never picked up on that, but yeah, yeah, but yeah.

 

01:02:24:18 - 01:02:51:14

 

Centineo pandemonium. I love it. I don't like feet, though. I hate fucking feet. I'm not a feet guy, but I'm still picking this as my favorite because it's such a good monster reveal. Quentin can fuck right off, but that's real strength. I think you transcended your fear of the okay, now it is time for a segment that we like to call the real monster.

 

01:02:51:16 - 01:03:16:23

 

Run, run, run as fast as you can. You can catch me. I'm the gingerbread man. You're a monster. I'm not the monster. Here you are. You and the rest of that fairy tale crash poisoning my perfect world. Now tell me, where are the others? Eat me. You're. Okay, Danny, would you like to start us off with your real monster?

 

01:03:17:00 - 01:03:36:14

 

Yes, I have a few. I'll try to get through them very quickly. Okay. One. I'm actually going to leave for you because I know it's going to be on your list. Sure. Yeah. I have Seth a couple times. I have Seth for leaving Gloria alone with Richie, right? Which he know you. You you see it in his eyes when he leaves.

 

01:03:36:16 - 01:03:59:07

 

You see, there's a quick moment in his eyes where he like. Yeah, he knows that this might be a mistake. Yeah. Like, maybe he sets on his own journey and he's maybe contending with his own things about, like, his relationship with his brother. But, you know, you're doing, also, Seth, for being a I know he is. He's got his heroic moments started including putting out a fantastic performance.

 

01:03:59:07 - 01:04:22:11

 

And yeah, I got to give him credit for having an arc, but he is a racist, homophobe, which he displays in that scene with when they, kidnap the family. Yeah. Little cross the line. Give me. Yeah. I wish they had given that to, Richie Sherman because it's hard for me to, like, root for Seth in the end when you, like, look back like, oh, you're not just a robber.

 

01:04:22:11 - 01:04:46:06

 

You're kind of an asshole. Yeah. So many levels. Wait. You are a fucking bastard. Yeah, you are us. Yeah. Just because you said that doesn't, I also have whoever designed the door. The bathroom door in the RV. I see more of a shower curtain. Just like y'all need a little bit more than that when we're using the facilities.

 

01:04:46:08 - 01:05:07:07

 

I have, Santana co pandemonium for knocking down Frost's dominoes. It's kind of a running gag where he's trying to set up the domino. Yeah, I love it. You watch it the second time, it gets knocked over again. It's just like, so defeated. Fuck. Although maybe he's a real monster for setting up the dominoes on a table in a bar in the first place with strippers dancing on it.

 

01:05:07:09 - 01:05:32:08

 

Yeah. Oh. And then finally, I have Scott for really under utilizing the his water gun, because there's a lot of times where he just like unloads and takes out quite a few vampires and then just doesn't use it. Just it just kind of runs around with it. And it seems like the easiest way because like he has distance, it only apparently takes a little squirt of water for them to go up in flames.

 

01:05:32:08 - 01:05:50:22

 

He could have just, like, knocked them off in like, two minutes. Yeah. God. So that's what I've got. Gilly, do you have any real monsters? You know, that's the real monster. I know. I think he he got kind of a bunch. Danny kind of nailed it. Yeah, I'm trying to think of, I mean, obviously Richie was,

 

01:05:51:00 - 01:06:18:03

 

Yeah, a real monster in his. I'm not a big fan of Quentin Tarantino in his movies, but watch. Sure. Again, I got, like, this pretty. That shows some restraint. You look so young and just innocent. And his skin is kind of dislike of what? With, you know, as a as his characters in his movie, like, even Pulp Fiction and, you know, they, they, but, I thought he did a great job, you know?

 

01:06:18:05 - 01:06:41:22

 

Yeah. Watching it again. Just real like a good acting job. Like a good restraint. It should do too much stuff. But it's very. I mean, so, Richie, you know, I partly maybe, Jacob, just for getting his family in that situation to begin with, you know. Oh, sure. Letting it happen. Yeah. He just had, like, that fucking hotel.

 

01:06:41:22 - 01:07:03:00

 

He just had to have a real bed. Yeah. Damn right. You know, he he he, you know, I mean, he totally. Yeah. It's like, damn, not this one. If we have to stop, this place is horrible. Like, let's listen to your daughter get one. Yeah. Cool. Like, what is hard about that? Exactly. Those are real emotions she's having.

 

01:07:03:02 - 01:07:33:21

 

But, Yeah. Yeah. And then, Yeah, I mean, that's that was, Yeah, that was great. That was had a big one be Jacob. Okay. Yeah, that's a good that's good. Danny, I think you called mine right out of the gate. Like, you know what mine was going to be? It's the, it's the, the R-word in the opening, segment with Michael Parks and John Hawkes talking about, I think they they call the kid like a mongoloid, and they call it, like, a bunch of different names that just aren't fucking cool and just.

 

01:07:33:23 - 01:07:54:08

 

I mean, it's not just like the name, the slurs they use. It's also like what they're talking about, like, yeah, are they allowed to serve food of the public? And there should be a law against it. I'm like, dude, okay, just let's tone this down a bit. Yeah. Like that we don't. It's not that they're designing these characters with this dialog for us to root for them, so that's good.

 

01:07:54:08 - 01:08:18:15

 

But at the same time it's like, yeah, it's not the same. Maybe go a different way. This. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But so that. Yeah, that's my real monster. For From Dusk Till Dawn and, this is our very final segment. This is would you survive from dusk till dawn? And here we go.

 

01:08:18:17 - 01:08:40:19

 

I have a feeling that we would all perish. But I might be surprised. I have an out. Yo, Danny, he's got an out. Okay. Would you survive from dusk till dawn, Danny? Well, I said you wouldn't catch me dead in a straight strip club. Like. More like. Lord knows my cousins used to try my 18th birthday. Hey, Danny, you want to go to a strip club?

 

01:08:40:19 - 01:08:59:15

 

I was like, nah, nah, I'm good. I gotta do it. I gotta wash my. I gotta wash my hair. I can, I could, go to a different strip club. I can't do it. So for that reason, I would survive. If I was there, I would die very quickly. I was scared, and I would just, like, crawl into a fetal position.

 

01:08:59:17 - 01:09:26:01

 

Yeah. Just don't let me see it happen. Just do it daily. Would you survive? Interesting. You know, there's two. I mean, this is, So I have before been to a brothel slash, strip club, and I've been a stripper before, but I would not call myself, freak winter of these establishments. And I didn't fare too well the first time I went.

 

01:09:26:05 - 01:09:45:03

 

Spent a night there. So I have a feeling that, depending on when I went to, like, I would like to think, like, damn. Yeah, yeah, but I have. I'm kind of like, a big kind of wimp when it comes to that. I feel weird or just possible. I could have been outside, like, you know, trying to smoke a cigaret or something.

 

01:09:45:03 - 01:10:02:06

 

Like I just. Yeah. It's cool. I feel up to being objectified. I just don't, you know, if I might have. May miss the melee, you know? Yeah. But, like, thank God if you walk out to smoke a cigaret and you come back at the doors and you got in on the door, you know, I couldn't get back in it.

 

01:10:02:08 - 01:10:24:06

 

Yeah, it could have substantiated. You know why I never frequent these things? But they stayed in there. I think I'd be dead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I totally I would not make it out, but vampires like this, like, scare the fucking hell out of me. Like. Like Danny Trejo's vampire. Always scared me because he's, like, fucking big and buff, and he's.

 

01:10:24:10 - 01:10:41:17

 

He roars. And, when he, like, goes after sex machine and, like, jumps on the table, I would have been like, no. Nope. I'm done. Like, yeah, that terrifies me. And, you know, I always think, like when they do that Wild Bunch thing where they line up with the four and the four on each side, I'm like, fuck, that's terrifying.

 

01:10:41:17 - 01:11:01:01

 

Like, I wouldn't be ready for that. It'd be like, like, oh, wow, I'm a coward. Oh, you guys walked a little faster than me and you got to him first, okay, I see, no, I would be fucking dead. Yeah. So I yeah. So I liked my, And like, the, the line that really resonates with me that Clooney says he kind of says it real off hand.

 

01:11:01:01 - 01:11:16:03

 

And I just like, he's like, I don't care if I, you know, if I live or die, I want to kill as many of these fuckers as I can. You know, you're kind of looking around. I thought, like, that's that's how you feel, you know? Yeah. That's how you feel. Yeah. I've just got to get rid of these guys, you know?

 

01:11:16:06 - 01:11:35:16

 

Yeah. And that that I. I'm hoping that that's where I would have been. You know, I believe in us I think, I think we all would have our hero moment if push comes to shove. So, maybe I'll see. So. I don't think so. Then. Oh, God. Okay. Well, that you guys, that is from dusk till Dawn.

 

01:11:35:16 - 01:12:00:22

 

That is our first movie in our cruel summer triple feature. Danny, what are we watching next? What's next? What's up? We are watching. Well, it's. Oh, it's Cassie's movie, but she's not. Yeah, yeah, but Casey is not here now, so we will be watching Carter Smith's adaptation of The Ruins. Oh, right. Yeah. And it's kind of fitting, too, because, like, the way that this movie ends with, like, that Mayan temple in the bottom, and then.

 

01:12:01:00 - 01:12:27:18

 

Then we're going to watch the ruins. It's kind of back, almost like a spirit and sequel purpose. Yeah. Yeah. Just that last shot. I will give it to, tested on that last shot driving away, which is, I think you probably painted a scene. It wasn't practical or something, but I just love the the exposing that that pyramid in the back, and you're like, oh, God, is this going on for a while?

 

01:12:27:20 - 01:12:46:12

 

Yeah. I think, and, you know, even though, you know, we've talked about music a lot on this episode, the, the rock song that comes in, when the song you get the reveal, it's fucking awesome. Yeah. And that's why you should always if you're going out with your friends and you're going to a bar, always check the back. I always think you got to secure the perimeter.

 

01:12:46:14 - 01:12:58:21

 

Yeah, yeah, just, you know, like, oh, shit, there's a temple back here. Yeah. Let's go. Let's not back there. So setting.

 

01:12:58:23 - 01:13:23:08

 

Okay. Well, thank you so much for joining us today to talk about From Dusk Till Dawn. Where can our listeners follow American Clown or you on social media? Absolutely. One Los Angeles clown on Instagram. That's my company name as well, Los Angeles Clown Company. And then in the movies called American Clown. And our Instagram handles American Clown movie.

 

01:13:23:10 - 01:13:40:06

 

And, and you can find, you know, like I said, we're going to be on June 23rd. We'll be previewing 7 p.m. Monday in Hollywood, right where they do the Academy Awards or have done it. So if you're in the LA area, please come and check it out. There's going to be, hopefully a lot of fun players there.

 

01:13:40:06 - 01:13:59:08

 

And the movie's got Steve-O and Nancy Riley and David Arquette and dozens and dozens of other bozos. So, I think it should be great. And hopefully it'll. If you can't make it out to L.A. or you don't live in L.A., I totally understand. Hopefully you'll be streaming somewhere, but, American Clown, the movie. Yeah. Awesome. I can't wait to.

 

01:13:59:08 - 01:14:24:00

 

Awesome. Yeah. Thanks, guys. I really appreciate it. Thanks for having me on. Yeah, totally. Danny, it's time to embarrass yourself in front of our guests. Where can our listeners find you on social media? You can find me on social media, on Instagram and Blue Sky at my name, Danny Salim. That's, Danny. Sally. Me two ends like the candy melt in your butt, not in your hands.

 

01:14:24:02 - 01:14:40:22

 

Never stupid gag that it's. And it just stuck. And then they they make me do it every time. It never gets old anyways. But on top of the fact, it's so much better when we have a guest. Because I can see it in your face. You're just like, oh my God, it just drains out of you. The the I can't just let it go.

 

01:14:40:22 - 01:15:24:03

 

The show must go on. And you can find me on social media at Going Sick. Make sure to join us next episode for The Ruins. And as always, thank you all for listening. Now go meet some monsters.

 

01:15:24:05 - 01:15:35:07

 

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